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with the fallen relic of the past that was the Soviet Union, which of course Red Guardian symbolized.And are you ready for Falcon and The Winter Soldier to be at war with their own government (again)? Of course, what’s really going on with Red Guardian is that this is all a funny little throughline for David Harbour’s character, and it also contrasts the whole concept of the shiny, upstanding, perfect Captain America - symbol of the good old U.S. And since Steve Rogers’ identity is publicly known, presumably Alexei would be aware that his “contemporary” is like 100 years old. He even says that he feels like they’re more “contemporaries” than enemies - so, you know, guys from the same era. Marvel has left it unclear at this point whether or not Bradley actually donned a Captain American uniform as he did in the comics, but it’s not out of the question that he or some other American soldier did in 1984.īut then again, at one point in Black Widow Alexei asks Natasha if Cap ever talked about him to her. These experiments resulted in Isaiah Bradley, who we met in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, becoming a super soldier in his own right. government continued to experiment on its own soldiers, including many African-American men, at least into the 1950s. It is possible, of course, that Red Guardian actually fought a different version of Cap, as we now know that the U.S.

So why would they be fighting? Also, the Guardian mentions “having the nuclear codes” during his fight with Cap, which again, doesn’t line up with a 1940s match-up. and Russia were allies during World War II. So that would mean that Red Guardian’s story about fighting Cap in 1984 doesn’t make a ton of sense, right? But maybe Alexei just got the dates wrong and actually he was talking about something that happened back in the ’40s…? Well, putting aside the fact that the prologue of Black Widow pretty much establishes that Alexei was a younger man in the 1990s than he is in the more or less modern time period that most of the film is set during 2016 - which would seem to indicate that he ages normally like the rest of us - there’s also the fact that the U.S. Captain America was still on ice at the time, frozen in suspended animation. That’s when Cap entered suspended animation and remained frozen for approximately 66 years before being discovered and thawed by S.H.I.E.L.D. Rogers became a hero and ultimately went into the ice in 1945 while preventing a bombing attack on the United States initiated by the Red Skull. Erskine’s Super Soldier experiment as part of Project Rebirth and adopted the Captain America mantle. After years of dreaming of joining the army so he could fight in World War II, he underwent Dr. So how could they have fought each other?Īs we all learned in history class, Steve Rogers was born in 1918 in good old Brooklyn, USA. 1984.” Which, as he is then reminded, would mean Captain America was still on ice at the time, frozen in suspended animation. Sounds exciting! And yet, when one of the inmates asks Alexei what year this confrontation took place, he replies, “I don’t know.

“Finally, the Red Guardian’s time has come! I grab hold of his shield. “There he is - Captain America,” he says. He’s arm-wrestling fellow inmates one at a time, and beguiling them with stories of fighting Cap. The first time we hear about these alleged adventures is when we meet up with the former Red Guardian, who has been imprisoned in the Russian Gulag for years. But the thing is, Alexei is probably making it all up… Or is he? Let’s take a look at the evidence.